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New Build Brickwork
« on: July 10, 2019, 12:30:02 am »
New poster looking in desperate need of advice

We are currently in the process of purchasing a new build property off-plan. The house is currently being constructed but we are increasingly unhappy with the seemingly poor quality of the brickwork as there are a number of areas on the side of the property which appear to be discoloured and where the work looks incredibly untidy. I have attached an image

There are also pockets where the mortar is darker lower down and can be scratched away.

Are we right to be concerned?

The builder is stating that this is part of the drying out process and that the colours will naturally harmonise but this sounds implausibly. They have also stated that they are still to jet wash the exterior and that this will improve the appearance.

We have yet to exchange, though we have paid a reservation fee of £500 (half of which is refundable) and a contribution towards "extras" which was a few thousand pounds. Although it is still early stages, if we were to decide not to proceed, is there any recourse to get this back.

I will be speaking to the site manager next week

Many thanks in advance for any help


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Re: New Build Brickwork
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2019, 08:31:15 am »
First of all who is your housebuilder?  I'm guessing Persimmon.
This is particularly relevant as a recent post pulled out of the sale having paid thousands for extras and had to go down the legal route to get some of the money refunded, even though the house wasn't built.
http://forum.brand-newhomes.co.uk/david-wilson-homes/nightmare-buying-new-david-wilson-home/msg4377/#msg4377

Looking at your photo, the brickwork is at best a mess. there is evidence of a complete lack of care and a jet wash should never be necessary if care a skill is taken.

I would question, why were the four bricks were removed?
Looking at the staining, it does seem that the cavity is blocked or weep holes missing in places.

The mortar banding will actually weather down a bit, but is does indicate either an inconsistency of mortar mix, something you SHOULD BE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT!    or that remedial re pointing has been carried out with a stronger mortar mix (ie a higher cement content)

As for mortar easily falling away powdering when scraped across se the link above, it could be a weak mortar mix and will be no end of hassle for you getting this put right even if you do have an NHBC warranty.
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Re: New Build Brickwork
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2019, 10:36:04 am »
Thanks for this - reinforces our fears

The builder is Bovis - which only adds to our concern after reading their reviews on Trustpilot and in other places

The bricks along the centre that have been infilled are where the supports for the scaffolding previously were. Is this not standard practice? Disappointingly, we had raised concerns about the quality of the brickwork prior to these been infilled, but they look to be the most sloppy, with mortar that is very dark and almost dark green in colour used that is not consistent with the rest of the exterior.

I am meeting the site manager on Monday to discuss our concerns. Thankfully we have not yet exchanged, although as I noted we have paid thousands of pounds to cover extras including kitchens and carpets but, perhaps naively, I am assuming these can be returned and funds refunded. If we decided not to proceed (looking increasingly likely), I will pursue this with our solicitor (I have had a read of linked post which is helpful - will look into CCHB -thankfully we have used our own solicitors)

I have attached another photo which provides a few from slightly further away.  On here you can see the what looks to be issues on the corners with the bricks not neatly aligned and a gap between the final diagonal wooden roof pane and the horizontal roof pane.

There are other concerns too. At the front of the property, there are some areas where the brickwork appears to be almost brick on brick as the mortar is so thin (few mm - see pic) whilst we have also noticed that the lintel underneath the main front bedroom window has been broken (rather than being square, the edges have been broken off) - do not have a photo of this at the moment. Bovis have stated this is a standard part of building development as it is a live site but will be repaired or replaced later, though it is really quite badly damaged so potentially points to a lack of care and attention.



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Re: New Build Brickwork
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2019, 10:38:12 am »
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Re: New Build Brickwork
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2019, 07:25:26 am »
As it is Bovis Homes my advice is cancel.

It is perfectly clear from the quality and "explanations" thus far that Bovis haven't changed and probably never will. 

It is good you have not used any of their recommended solicitors.
Whether you get a full refund or not, would you still want to buy a Bovis new house knowing what you now know, seeing what you are getting, and having years of hassle trying to get the defects and poor workmanship fixed?

Most who live the Bovis nightmare would happily lose around £5,000 just to end it, get away and move on.

As for the bricks. These were replaced because they were damaged when the putlog scaffold was removed. Putlog scaffolding is cheaper than the free-standing scaffolding better housebuilders always use.
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