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Snagging and defects / Ceramic floor tiles have delaminated and tented / popped-up
« Last Post by Jivebunny on February 18, 2024, 02:50:32 pm »
The ceramic floor tiles in our five year-old new build house have de-laminated and 'popped-up'. In one section, we have found that two tiles have been laid on top of each other!

During an on-site inspection, the NHBC investigator said: The combination of differential thermal movement of the tiles and floor slab, exacerbated by the orientation of the property and the insufficient preparation of the sub floor to receive a tiled finished has led to the failure of the tile adhesive bond to the sub floor.

The house builder (Elan Homes) has refused to take responsibility as we are 'outside of the two-year builder’s warranty'. They have simply offered me £750 as a gesture of goodwill. This nowhere near covers the £5,000 it has cost me to replace the tiles (repair was not an option as the tiles are discontinued and the whole sub-floor appears not to have been primed).

The same thing has happened in a number of other properties on the estate - the builder agreed to replace the tiles in those properties.

Whilst talking with one of the customer care assistants prior to the NHBC inspection – the assistant said on a number of occasions "Don’t worry about it, as we have looked at your photographs and we are fully expecting the NHBC to find against us". When I asked on what grounds – she said "Reasonableness – it is reasonable to expect a tiled floor to last more than 5 years"

In their marketing material, they even use the phrases: "We build homes that stand the test of time for generations to come. From fitted kitchens…..to floors and skirting boards designed to withstand all the knocks of life. Elan Homes put exceptional care and attention into workmanship…..employ only the best tradesmen who take pride in their work. All our lovely homes are built for living and unlike older properties won’t require lots of costly repairs and renovations." They use the word ‘quality’ numerous times

I would like to know if we have a valid claim against the builder?
If so – under which legislation?
I have read that a new build house is not covered by the Consumer Rights Act 2015.
I wondered whether I could approach via the misrepresentation of their marketing material using the Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008.

Thanking you in advance. All comments will be gratefully received.
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Snagging and defects / Re: Weak / Sandy Mortar
« Last Post by Jeff Raine on January 26, 2024, 03:44:42 pm »
The article on this site is worth reading.

We are still fighting the same battle in 2024 with everyone blaming everyone else!

I may start a post on here and share our experiences


http://www.new-home-blog.co.uk/weak-mortar-new-homes-scandal/#google_vignette
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Snagging and defects / Re: Air Bricks below ground level
« Last Post by Jeff Raine on January 26, 2024, 03:35:18 pm »
Hi,

Can you let me know the year of build and the warranty provider - LABC or NHBC I will then look up the specifications in the relevant build manual and post it on here. Then there can be no dispute of the standards needed

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Snagging and defects / Re: Snapping/Cracking Noises Heard In Room Below
« Last Post by lukey on January 19, 2024, 01:05:15 pm »
After many battles I have managed to have the NHBC take over from the builder. They have offered a settlement to do the works (install resilient bars in both rooms), however, I am looking for some advice.

I believe I've read that I don't need to accept this offer and instead ask them take responsibility to still resolve this issue? Would this mean even if they do this work and it does not resolve the issue they are still liable?

From my point of view the issue accepting the cash offer is not really an option (even if it was I would need to go get 3rd party quotes to ensure the offer was 'fair').
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Snagging and defects / Re: Brickwork Dispute
« Last Post by Admin on January 12, 2024, 01:00:44 pm »
The NHBC standards are not actually binding.
 
What the diagram is for is when different materials are in the same wall in this case a blockwork wall with bricks in it.
Engineering bricks are used as a dpc so this is acceptable.

Quite why though, they have a course of headers in the engineering brickwork I have no idea and some of the cut bricks at the corners are very poor quality brickwork.
 
Your snagging inspector does appear to have been very thorough!
 
And yes, you would have a long battle with DWH to get this rebuilt.
Please write to the CEO Dave Thomas and send him the photos and which region thinks this is acceptable. He will ask questions.
 
If you wait, you will have their excuses and reasons for doing nothing.
If the CEO is contacted it bounces back to the regions with a “sort this out” so you won’t be messed around by them.  david.thomas@barrattplc.co.uk
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NHBC Warranty / Re: Leaking roof NHBC have accepted the claim
« Last Post by Admin on January 12, 2024, 12:57:22 pm »
You need to check NHOS website and the Code of Practice Conduct.
You have to have used the housebuilder's complaints procedure first and have reached a point where they have failed.

Plenty of hoopps to jump through before NHOS will accept a complaint.
Most builders are still promoting the should be defunct Consumer Code for Home Builders which has failed new home buyers for over a decade. Now revised to mirror what the New Homes Ombudsman does or was set up to do.
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NHBC Warranty / Re: Leaking roof NHBC have accepted the claim
« Last Post by Caz37 on January 11, 2024, 04:52:03 pm »
What's the timeline for moving to a ombudsman claim?

Is there a minimum wait time before I can start.
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Snagging and defects / Brickwork Dispute
« Last Post by Steven1985 on January 07, 2024, 04:43:54 am »
We have recently moved into a David Wilson home (21/12/23) and have noticed that the brickwork around our garden wall has a mixture of completely different bricks, I can understand there being a difference in shade but a completely different brick does not sit well with us.

We had a professional snag report completely but this was not picked up, only the amount of cement/mortar left on the bricks was highlighted. We have had a look at the 3 other properties which are exactly the same as ours to see if this was normal, but this is both the case!

All the other houses have matching brickwork throughout. I have attached pictures, as you will see I believe engineering bricks have been used at the bottoms for the first few rows?
My question is do we have case and should this be something that is rectified? As in rebuild the wall?
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Snagging and defects / Re: Air Bricks below ground level
« Last Post by New Home Expert on December 26, 2023, 12:45:34 pm »
First of all a DPC below the air brick is below ground and is thus useless.
This demonstrates how lacking in knowledge the site manager is and why you and at least 10 other properties have the same defect.
As it is, what will happen is when it rains is water will get in under your suspended floor.

That is why all air bricks must be at least 75mm above Finished ground level to the bottom of the air brick and the site manager should know this. The external wall dpc must be at least 150mm above FGL. This is stated in BOTH the building regulations and the NHBC warranty standards.

The solutions are:
1) Cut out all air brick and position them higher. But it will still mean the dpc is at the same level as the finished ground.
or
2) Lower the finished ground level around the home so it complies.

Please do not allow the site manager to give you anymore bull**it!
You may like to get the other shared ownership party involved.

 
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NHBC Warranty / Re: Leaking roof NHBC have accepted the claim
« Last Post by New Home Expert on December 26, 2023, 12:36:03 pm »
A diabolical reply from the NHBC.
The once heralded Buildmark warranty is now little more (probably at lot less) than a standard insurance policy.  It would appear that the poor new home buyer must now do all the legwork and admin and just get a cheque covering only the cost of the works!

Your first course of action is to carefully check your new home warranty policy and the wording thereof.  It may have changed since your policy was issued.
I still find it hard tp believe this is the only way the NHBC settle warranty claims.

Next up you need a drone survey of the roof. That will show any gaps in tiles, broken tiles, missing leadwork etc.

Then you need to get three quotes, all of which need to be inflated by say 20-30% to cover everything.
This is standard when you tell a trades "it's a quote for an insurance claim"

As for anyone reading this thread, it does seem the NHBC warranty policy is pretty much now useless, after the first two years!
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