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Crest Nicholson Plc - No they are privately owned
« on: July 04, 2011, 04:40:12 pm »
Crest Nicholson say © 2009 Crest Nicolson PLC on their website, but they havent been a PLC company, that is a Public Limited Company with shares listed on the London Stock Exchange, since 3rd May 2007.  perhaps they feel that being PLC gives them "credibility" with their customers!

Companies House say:
"A public limited company can choose to be either unlisted or listed on a regulated market.  The majority of PLC's choose to be unlisted and therefore do not offer their shares for purchase by members of the public etc.  

In order for a company to offer its shares on a regulated market it needs to obtain a trading certificate from Companies House to confirm that its has the minimum allotted share capital
- section 761 & 762 Companies Act 2006.  It is an offence to trade without such a certificate.  These rules are slightly different for a company that has been re-registered from Limited to PLC.

In general terms the rules surrounding PLC's are stricter than for a private limited company - for example shorter filing deadline
for accounts, PLC's are not able to file unaudited accounts unless they are dormant and they must have a company secretary"


For most of the last decade Crest have been saddled with debt.  They currently owe £431 million which is due to be repaid during 2013.
Crest is 80% owned by a US hedge fund Varde, with the current Crest Nicholson directors also owning 10%.

The debt repayment is not going to be easy when an operating profit of £47.3million was turned into a LOSS for the last year of £27.6 million due to interest charged on the debt and loans.

Anyone thinking of buying a new home from CREST NICHOLSON  should also consider who is going to carry out any remedial work if the company ceases trading.  In April 2009 even Persimmon, Galliford Try and Redrow who were  thought to be  considering a bid for the company didnt want to know when they discovered the extent of the debt. The loss that in the accounts to 31 October 2009, of   £50.7m. - making the level of debt dfficult to support.




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Re: Crest Nicholson Plc - No they are privately owned
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2011, 10:02:10 am »
It is hard to see how a company with so much debt and is making a loss after interest on the debt has been paid
can survive in the long run.

There are a few house builders calling themselves "PLC" when they do not have publicly traded shares.
Banner Homes also has "©2011 Banner Homes Group PLC" on their website.

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Re: Crest Nicholson Plc - No they are privately owned
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2011, 09:02:52 am »
So any company can say they are a PLC when the public cannot buy shares in that company
but a company that you can buy shares in MUST be called a PLC.

Crystal clear then!
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Re: Crest Nicholson Plc - No they are privately owned
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2011, 12:10:52 pm »
In view of the extra regulatory requirements, you would think that companies would prefer
to be Limited and not PLC no matter that they dont need to be listed to be PLC.

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Re: Crest Nicholson Plc - No they are privately owned
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2011, 01:45:22 pm »
If a company can say it is a 'PLC' when it does not have a stock exchange listing it will cause confusion.
This should be stopped.

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Re: Crest Nicholson Plc - No they are privately owned
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2011, 11:35:00 am »
American hedge fund Varde, has been buying up Crest Nicholson debt of more than £500 million and is set to convert this to equity - taking over control of the company in August 2011.

The existing management led by CEO Stephen Stone, who own 10% of the company have been approaching potential investors with a view to buying up the remaining 10% still owned by banks for a estimated £50 million.

Yet more loans and more debt!
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Re: Crest Nicholson Plc - No they are privately owned
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2011, 09:36:15 am »
It now appears that US hedge fund Varde will have 90% equity in Crest Nicholson having acquired the company's debt over the last 12 months.
The Chief Executive, Stephen Stone and his management team will have to make do with the 10% they have.

Surprisingly Stephen Stone is quoted as saying that "the restructuring will put us in a strong position"   
So having a massive debt all in one place, with an overseas hedge fund company no less, is a strong position?

Debt is debt and it makes you weaker not stronger, even if as in this case it is exchanged for a controlling equity stake! 

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